tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post1460264753130656581..comments2023-05-12T08:52:33.506-04:00Comments on Upstate New York Genealogy Blog: NYG&B Gives Their Library Away as was SuspectedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-84899494672470328782008-07-23T16:45:00.000-04:002008-07-23T16:45:00.000-04:00To Dianne Crane,Your response is closer to the poi...To Dianne Crane,<BR/><BR/>Your response is closer to the point of this saga. Many people seem to be responding about the books, access to the books and new digs at the NYPL.<BR/><BR/>All well and good, and most would not disagree. You raise a point about one of the stated goals from the NYGBS website that they would "maintain one of the principal genealogical reference libraries in the United unyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-82453178698222982692008-07-23T14:48:00.000-04:002008-07-23T14:48:00.000-04:00I would have to agree that the G&B is now defu...I would have to agree that the G&B is now defunct. The Library was the motivator for membership in the Society. Had I not had the opportunity to wander through the stacks, I never would have been as successful in researching my ancestry. Not being a genealogist, my method was to look at everything and anything, and the library afforded me that.<BR/><BR/>The NY Times article states that theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-15015328918003174982008-07-21T18:21:00.000-04:002008-07-21T18:21:00.000-04:00This is GREAT news for me and any other genealogis...This is GREAT news for me and any other genealogist in a wheelchair.<BR/><BR/>I have been a member of the NYG&B for years. I visited their building once to attend a program. It was not accessible but they did manage to get me inside after much fuss. But the elevator to the library??? No way could I go there.<BR/><BR/>The NYPL, on the other hand, is quite accessible. This addition will Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-90732915885084339022008-07-20T12:44:00.000-04:002008-07-20T12:44:00.000-04:00About twelve years ago the St. Louis Genealogical ...About twelve years ago the St. Louis Genealogical Society was faced with<BR/>the decision as to where to relocate our library collection on over<BR/>20,000 books, films, and sheet maps. Our Society volunteers had<BR/>maintained the collection for over 25 years, but the facility we were<BR/>using (at no cost) gave us one year to find a new home. We eventually<BR/>settled on "gifting" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-15845685966651984402008-07-20T12:41:00.000-04:002008-07-20T12:41:00.000-04:00(In response to Madelyn's comment previous.)My...(In response to Madelyn's comment previous.)<BR/><BR/>My question exactly -- what would the purpose of membership be? I don't see<BR/>any mention in these articles about the website. The most recent New York<BR/>Researcher announces that "In an attempt to better serve its members, the<BR/>NYG&B is concentrating on expanding the substantial offerings of its<BR/>e-Library."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-87693636512400318042008-07-20T11:27:00.000-04:002008-07-20T11:27:00.000-04:00Hello all,This type of thing is exactly why these ...Hello all,<BR/>This type of thing is exactly why these sort of collections should be digitized and made available online. Though it is true that not everyone owns a computer with internet access, public libraries everywhere, even in the smallest of towns have public use computers.<BR/>I also know that it's not the same as holding the item in your hand, far from it but it would make all of the Travelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11850320238029628988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-62595265838840974642008-07-20T11:18:00.000-04:002008-07-20T11:18:00.000-04:00Dear Richard Pence,Your comments are most apprecia...Dear Richard Pence,<BR/><BR/>Your comments are most appreciated. This is all excellent information abd I thank you.<BR/><BR/>Your mention of the dumpster calls to mind some other details that will likely be reported in the future.<BR/><BR/>Best regards.<BR/><BR/>Dick Hillenbrandunyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-32579030861562482472008-07-20T11:15:00.000-04:002008-07-20T11:15:00.000-04:00The deal sounds to me like the society PAID the NY...The deal sounds to me like the society PAID the NYPL to "please take our<BR/>books."<BR/><BR/>I don't think the NGS had to pay the St. Louis Public Library to accept its<BR/>collection. It sure seems like there is an epidemic of societies ridding<BR/>themselves of books.<BR/><BR/>It is sad to see even small libraries disappear. The association I worked<BR/>for in Washington for manyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-78660371084793363732008-07-20T10:28:00.000-04:002008-07-20T10:28:00.000-04:00Can see both sides however somewhat disheartening ...Can see both sides however somewhat disheartening to hear. Interesting and still more so when you consider how such a small group can wield so much 'power'. It's also been interesting to watch ancestry.com develop the last few years - almost out of sight for me to continue my subscription in my retiree years. However, I do appreciate the fact that were it not for a posted KS 1920 Federal census (judi.0044https://www.blogger.com/profile/12462757383148983890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-27916721157354584432008-07-20T09:26:00.000-04:002008-07-20T09:26:00.000-04:00Judy,Thanks so much for expressing your feelings a...Judy,<BR/><BR/>Thanks so much for expressing your feelings and concern. <BR/><BR/>How it happened is pretty much described in the older Blog posts that I linked to, especially the one about the report from the voting last July.<BR/><BR/>I do not have any specific details on the current list of members, no one is privy to that information any more, as the 15 members do not have to report,(as I unyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-7299167597284689952008-07-20T09:24:00.000-04:002008-07-20T09:24:00.000-04:00Just to counter some the Ancestry comments - as a ...Just to counter some the Ancestry comments - as a Canuck living in Cincinnati wanting to do Canadian research, and with gas now above $4 gallon (and well over $5 in Canada), I have gotten a lot of mileage, so to speak, out of Ancestry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-64292558931845487122008-07-20T07:54:00.000-04:002008-07-20T07:54:00.000-04:00As one who has had an article published in the NYG...As one who has had an article published in the NYG&BR, I wonder if publication correspondence is among the manuscript material given to the NYPL.<BR/><BR/>I am grateful for your coverage of this, but missed what the specific resolution said regarding disenfranchising Members forever, empowering a newly constituted Board of Trustees, how precisely that Board was created, and how members of theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-24245674018840560472008-07-19T20:11:00.000-04:002008-07-19T20:11:00.000-04:00I do not live in NY...but my ancestor's did. Sham...I do not live in NY...but my ancestor's did. Shame on this group. I am sure<BR/>something else could have been worked out that would have allowed<BR/>researcher's the opportunity to view these books. I have found so little<BR/>info on my families in Broome and St Lawrence county as it is. Now I may<BR/>never find more. This is happening all to often these days. Sigh!<BR/><BR/>GenaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-85928179778696750152008-07-19T20:03:00.000-04:002008-07-19T20:03:00.000-04:00To J. Davis,Ah the Newberry!I see they Blogged abo...To J. Davis,<BR/><BR/>Ah the Newberry!<BR/><BR/>I see they Blogged about the NYGBS today also.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your comments.unyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-87703631694582561742008-07-19T20:02:00.000-04:002008-07-19T20:02:00.000-04:00To DLMcDon,Your points are well taken and thanks v...To DLMcDon,<BR/><BR/>Your points are well taken and thanks very much.<BR/><BR/>I believe that ACPL in Fort Wayne has gone to totally open stacks now in their new state-of-the-art library.<BR/><BR/>Most all libraries have some sort of program in place to protect the rarities, be it microfilming, photo duplication, digitizing or whatever.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comments.unyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-29974279035991145542008-07-19T19:58:00.000-04:002008-07-19T19:58:00.000-04:00I agree .......Newberry Library in Chicago, the pr...I agree .......Newberry Library in Chicago, the premier genealogical<BR/>library in the midwest, used the pull slip method for years until<BR/>everything went computer but I would sit at a nice big table and look<BR/>through an index and a 3 ft hi wheeled cart would deliver stacks of<BR/>books I had requested. It was great, I didn't waste one moment of<BR/>my time there while searching for my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-54225041000845432412008-07-19T19:57:00.001-04:002008-07-19T19:57:00.001-04:00Reading briefly through the blog, my take on the a...Reading briefly through the blog, my take on the article was that rare resource materials will now be maintained under more watchful eyes.? I have visited several eastern community libraries where I was allowed full unsupervised access to 150+ year old publications.? The access was wonderful for the sake of finding tidbits of information on families, associate family and local history, but when Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-70591398939668041472008-07-19T19:57:00.000-04:002008-07-19T19:57:00.000-04:00Mr. Samuelson,Some how your comment slipped by me....Mr. Samuelson,<BR/><BR/>Some how your comment slipped by me. I meant to say thank you and your experience and knowledge is highly valued.<BR/><BR/>Dick Hillenbrandunyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-60980270490108549022008-07-19T19:04:00.001-04:002008-07-19T19:04:00.001-04:00Thank you very much for your comment.Thank you very much for your comment.unyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-43953691781847159232008-07-19T19:04:00.000-04:002008-07-19T19:04:00.000-04:00In my estimation, they did the right thing.The col...In my estimation, they did the right thing.<BR/><BR/>The collection is in a safe place and even though it won't be as readily available as it was, it is still available.<BR/><BR/>It is a disappointment all the same.<BR/><BR/><BR/>BettyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-5820649258899232952008-07-19T18:54:00.000-04:002008-07-19T18:54:00.000-04:00I have ancestors from New York City, and considere...I have ancestors from New York City, and considered joining the NYG&B - but there were already rumours of trouble, so I hesitated. I watched with horror as the putsch was carried out - and now, sadly, I see I have no more reason to even consider joining the NYG&B.<BR/><BR/>I agree, the collection might have been more accessible if sold to Ancestry, little as I love Ancestry. I hope you The Wandering Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05404559867270050616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-16420286330776818162008-07-19T18:26:00.000-04:002008-07-19T18:26:00.000-04:00Sad isn't it Barbara?Your comments are right on th...Sad isn't it Barbara?<BR/><BR/>Your comments are right on the money and I thank you deeply for sharing them.<BR/><BR/>Dick Eastman has written several times about this and he explains quite well the NEHGS structure. I believe there is an over sight committee to keep any skulduggery from occurring.<BR/><BR/>I'm quite sure that the NYGBS only has fifteen members now, not 30.<BR/><BR/>All the best.unyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-12964713848126604582008-07-19T18:22:00.000-04:002008-07-19T18:22:00.000-04:00I read the e-mail yesterday from top to bottom, an...I read the e-mail yesterday from top to bottom, and then over again for some clue as to what was happening. I had a sinking feeling the collection would never be seen again.<BR/><BR/>The excuse for the 30 members was that they were following the NEHGS model. NEHGS has a council of about 100, and the prior members are still members--albeit it without voting rights. A common corporate model. <Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-37730465168700260662008-07-19T18:18:00.000-04:002008-07-19T18:18:00.000-04:00If you can get access to it from the NYPL, it will...If you can get access to it from the NYPL, it will be free. Unless you go to Salt Lake City, nothing else is free in Genealogy anymore. With only 15 members, it looks like it was their decision to make.Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15220490943055403338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10189693.post-79682379964951607042008-07-19T17:59:00.000-04:002008-07-19T17:59:00.000-04:00Madelyn,You said it best.Madelyn,<BR/><BR/>You said it best.unyghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15593029219996471902noreply@blogger.com